1 00:00:04,309 --> 00:00:02,550 hello so the other day we had this uh 2 00:00:06,070 --> 00:00:04,319 this photograph of some stars and i 3 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:06,080 needed to figure out like where these 4 00:00:12,310 --> 00:00:08,880 stars actually were the uh 5 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:12,320 image came from this pdf here it says 6 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:13,920 you know the location of the starlight 7 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:16,480 object and it shows this little circle 8 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:19,760 here now uh if you zoom in on this image 9 00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:23,359 and uh crop it you get this 10 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:25,199 this image here which isn't you know 11 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:26,480 super good but you can actually see a 12 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,560 whole bunch of stars now the person who 13 00:00:33,030 --> 00:00:31,039 took this image has drawn this this 14 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:33,040 constellation on which supposedly looks 15 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:34,880 like us a minor but it isn't doesn't 16 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,440 minor so what i did was i 17 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:39,280 uh took this image and you zoom in you 18 00:00:42,630 --> 00:00:40,719 can see that there are actually stars 19 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:42,640 visible i took this image 20 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:46,079 and i removed the lines over there now i 21 00:00:49,830 --> 00:00:47,840 did that without removing any stars so 22 00:00:51,350 --> 00:00:49,840 it's all exactly the same and i just 23 00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:51,360 brightened it up a bit so you can see 24 00:00:55,350 --> 00:00:53,760 the stars a little bit better and then i 25 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:55,360 kind of went through each of the stars 26 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,079 that are visible and i stuck just a 27 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:01,120 brighter spot on them so i could see 28 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:03,120 the uh the shape of things a bit better 29 00:01:06,630 --> 00:01:04,879 and you can see we've got some really 30 00:01:08,630 --> 00:01:06,640 distinctive features there's like a 31 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,640 little box of stars here there's one 32 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:10,640 very bright star here 33 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:12,400 which is the star in question 34 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:13,920 and there's two little stars next to 35 00:01:18,149 --> 00:01:15,600 each other right here and then some more 36 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:18,159 over here and then i basically went into 37 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:20,960 the solarium program and i found uh 38 00:01:25,350 --> 00:01:23,200 where these stars are here's the two 39 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:25,360 little stars there and here's the bright 40 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:27,600 star here antares and a couple of other 41 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:29,280 bright stars and this little 42 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:31,520 line of stars and the star down here and 43 00:01:35,830 --> 00:01:33,200 you can see i can go between 44 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,840 uh the two and you can see everything 45 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,520 matches all the stars are in the same 46 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:39,520 place so this 47 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:41,360 obviously is 48 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:42,880 what we are looking at we're looking at 49 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:45,360 the star antares and we can go back 50 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:47,759 to uh the the original 51 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:49,920 image here and we can see everything 52 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:52,560 matches up if you uh look carefully you 53 00:01:57,030 --> 00:01:54,640 see these four stars here these two over 54 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:57,040 here and then go back into stellarium 55 00:02:01,670 --> 00:01:58,640 there's thus far and those those two 56 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:01,680 there so everything lines up but uh the 57 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:04,560 question i got from a few people was how 58 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:06,479 do you actually do this how do you 59 00:02:11,270 --> 00:02:08,640 actually go into stellarium which is 60 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:11,280 this astronomy program very useful 61 00:02:17,910 --> 00:02:15,680 and find uh stars based on just this uh 62 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:17,920 this crappy little 63 00:02:22,150 --> 00:02:19,760 photograph that we have i'm going to 64 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:22,160 explain how i actually did that and some 65 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:23,599 other options 66 00:02:25,990 --> 00:02:24,560 now 67 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:26,000 when you're looking for stars there's a 68 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:27,840 number of things to keep in mind uh 69 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:29,120 obviously when you look up at the sky 70 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:30,560 there are some things that are fairly 71 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:33,120 recognizable you've got the big dipper 72 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:34,400 everyone knows where that is you look 73 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:36,560 towards the the north and you'll see the 74 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:38,800 big dipper going around polaris uh 75 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,959 there's a ryan's belt which is three 76 00:02:44,150 --> 00:02:42,800 three stars in a line very very 77 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:44,160 noticeable and there's a few other 78 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,000 things like that that's a lot of people 79 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:48,000 will recognize but you know in this 80 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:49,360 image there was nothing that was 81 00:02:54,150 --> 00:02:51,680 recognizable he kind of tried to force 82 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:54,160 uh this this shape onto there but it was 83 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:56,000 it was wrong 84 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:57,280 uh 85 00:03:00,949 --> 00:02:58,720 and part of the reason is that this is 86 00:03:03,030 --> 00:03:00,959 zoomed in it's a small region of the sky 87 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:03,040 it's it's not like the you know the big 88 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:04,400 picture of this guy that we're used to 89 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:06,640 seeing and 90 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:08,560 it it it doesn't actually have any 91 00:03:12,790 --> 00:03:11,040 recognizable constellations in it it's 92 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:12,800 just got a few bits of 93 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:14,319 other constellations you might actually 94 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,319 recognize but uh 95 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:18,640 even if you did there's not enough of it 96 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:21,280 now uh we can use 97 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,239 stellarium to look at the the sky but 98 00:03:28,550 --> 00:03:26,080 there's a number of 99 00:03:30,470 --> 00:03:28,560 complications uh that we need to be 100 00:03:33,110 --> 00:03:30,480 aware of before we start doing this 101 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:33,120 first of all is the stars move stars do 102 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:35,840 not appear at a fixed point in the sky 103 00:03:40,149 --> 00:03:37,680 other than the north star all the other 104 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:40,159 stars rotate uh they appear to rotate 105 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:41,840 around it they appear to rise in the 106 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:44,239 east and set in the west so they move 107 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:46,000 across the sky and so they'll rotate in 108 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:48,159 their orientation as well with stars 109 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:49,760 constellations that rise and one 110 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:51,920 orientation will rotate and end up 111 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,720 setting in the other orientation so 112 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:56,239 if you look at the big dipper you see it 113 00:03:59,990 --> 00:03:57,760 doesn't always point the same way up it 114 00:04:02,229 --> 00:04:00,000 depends and it varies throughout the day 115 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:02,239 after other night rather and it also 116 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:03,200 varies 117 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:05,040 uh with different times of the year 118 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:06,879 because we're moving relative to the sun 119 00:04:10,229 --> 00:04:08,959 so the stars that we see during the 120 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:10,239 night are different 121 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,680 in different times of the year so you 122 00:04:15,270 --> 00:04:13,439 need to know both the time of the day 123 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:15,280 and the time of the year 124 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:16,799 there's also issues of of light 125 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:19,199 pollution we can't see all of the stars 126 00:04:22,870 --> 00:04:21,199 so if we bring up a star chart you can 127 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:22,880 have all these stars in it and we might 128 00:04:26,230 --> 00:04:24,320 only be able to see a few of them like 129 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:26,240 the brightest stars that are in the sky 130 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:27,120 with the 131 00:04:31,749 --> 00:04:29,360 light pollution sometimes there's clouds 132 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:31,759 and other obstructions uh that cover up 133 00:04:35,590 --> 00:04:33,440 the stars and we have to 134 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,600 uh be aware that we're working with with 135 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,440 limited data here there's a there's a 136 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:39,520 tree down here which is could have 137 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:41,360 covered up some beautiful useful stars 138 00:04:45,189 --> 00:04:42,880 probably didn't 139 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:45,199 and then finally uh there is the issue 140 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:47,919 of planets now planets 141 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,720 like venus and jupiter and mars are the 142 00:04:54,070 --> 00:04:52,400 ones that you most commonly see they 143 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:54,080 kind of look like stars they're very 144 00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:55,040 bright 145 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:57,280 and but they move around in a different 146 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:58,560 way they're in different positions 147 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:01,520 relative to the stars and so that varies 148 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,639 greatly a little bit through the day but 149 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:06,400 quite a lot depending on which day of 150 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:08,960 the year it is and not even just the day 151 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:11,759 of the year it varies based on the 152 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:14,800 the year length of the planet itself so 153 00:05:17,909 --> 00:05:16,160 it uh 154 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,919 you you need to know 155 00:05:22,550 --> 00:05:19,520 if you suspect you're looking at a 156 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:22,560 planet you need to know the exact date 157 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,120 i use a stellarium to find this and i'll 158 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:27,280 get into how i did that in a minute but 159 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:29,360 there are actually other options which 160 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:32,000 are easier if they work for you 161 00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:33,520 one of those options is the site 162 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:35,360 astrometry.net 163 00:05:40,950 --> 00:05:37,759 and that is this very useful site so you 164 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:40,960 go to nova.astrology.net 165 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:43,280 upload and it lets you 166 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:46,000 upload a file so figure one you can just 167 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:49,360 drop it in and you can upload it and 168 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:50,720 if you're lucky 169 00:05:53,830 --> 00:05:52,160 you will actually get a result and in 170 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:53,840 this case we actually did i was quite 171 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:56,400 surprised because i've used this site 172 00:06:00,950 --> 00:05:58,160 uh several times before 173 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:00,960 and it didn't actually give me a good 174 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,759 result uh this is using the the cleaned 175 00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,600 up version that i created but it 176 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:07,520 actually works with the original image 177 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:09,039 with with the lines drawn on it and it 178 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,560 does actually find 179 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:12,720 uh which stars we're looking at and what 180 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:15,440 direction we're looking at and so 181 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:17,520 this is a little bit of a fiddly site to 182 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:19,840 use it takes quite a long time sometimes 183 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,919 you get the errors when you're uploading 184 00:06:24,629 --> 00:06:23,520 it you just have to keep refreshing the 185 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:24,639 page 186 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:25,440 but 187 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:27,919 it will actually give you a result and 188 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:31,199 here's here's the actual result 189 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:34,720 takes a long time it's rather slow 190 00:06:37,670 --> 00:06:36,080 it was actually quicker i think for me 191 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,680 to do it manually than to use this 192 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:40,080 program but i think it's a great option 193 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:41,120 if you 194 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:43,120 want to try this first it's probably the 195 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,039 easiest thing to do 196 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:47,440 might not work but if it does gives you 197 00:06:54,309 --> 00:06:48,800 the result 198 00:06:55,909 --> 00:06:54,319 a mess but if you click on let's say 199 00:06:58,150 --> 00:06:55,919 full size 200 00:07:00,390 --> 00:06:58,160 it gives you a a better 201 00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:00,400 version of this image and here's the the 202 00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:02,800 result we could see that the bright star 203 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:06,720 here is antares and uh we're in scorpio 204 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:07,919 and it 205 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:09,199 basically tells you what we're looking 206 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:11,520 at in here's and yes the original image 207 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:13,759 shows you the stars that match 208 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:15,440 and 209 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:27,840 works with the the original image as 210 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:29,840 well you see here is the original image 211 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:30,720 with 212 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:33,360 no enhancements whatsoever and it found 213 00:07:37,029 --> 00:07:34,800 they found the star so i was quite 214 00:07:38,309 --> 00:07:37,039 surprised that that worked as well as it 215 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:38,319 did 216 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:47,280 a look at uh what that actually entails 217 00:07:52,390 --> 00:07:49,520 so here's stellarium stellarium is a 218 00:07:54,629 --> 00:07:52,400 program for looking at the night sky 219 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,639 and you can kind of scroll around by 220 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:56,720 just grabbing with a mouse and you can 221 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:58,240 zoom in on various different parts of 222 00:08:00,869 --> 00:07:59,759 the sky and you can tell which direction 223 00:08:03,589 --> 00:08:00,879 you're looking in here we're looking 224 00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:03,599 towards the west we know what time it is 225 00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:06,639 here 22 100 hours it gives you the time 226 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:09,360 in in local time which depends on where 227 00:08:13,909 --> 00:08:11,599 you are actually set now the first thing 228 00:08:15,589 --> 00:08:13,919 you want to do is set the location so 229 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:15,599 you come over here to this little menu 230 00:08:20,230 --> 00:08:18,160 pop out menu on the bottom left 231 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,240 click on location window 232 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,479 and you can just type in the location 233 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:24,960 you want in this case it's albuquerque 234 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:27,280 but here you can just 235 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:30,000 type it in albuquerque united states and 236 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:31,360 it will just set 237 00:08:38,469 --> 00:08:35,279 down here it will set you to albuquerque 238 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:38,479 uh we want to set the time and date 239 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:40,959 now we know that this this first image 240 00:08:47,350 --> 00:08:43,599 that we're looking at field one 241 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:47,360 is was taken on august the first of uh 242 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:50,720 was 2008. 243 00:09:02,470 --> 00:08:59,910 first 244 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:02,480 so uh now we've got things set correctly 245 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:06,560 to albuquerque and august the first 2008 246 00:09:10,710 --> 00:09:08,880 and the time zone is u to c minus six 247 00:09:11,829 --> 00:09:10,720 which is uh mountain time which i think 248 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:11,839 is correct for 249 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:14,800 albuquerque so we're all good 250 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,560 now often the the times that people give 251 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:20,320 for photographs are approximate it's 252 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:23,120 it's helpful if you can get the uh the 253 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,560 exact time 254 00:09:27,509 --> 00:09:26,399 uh from the the image but sometimes 255 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:27,519 that's off by an hour because of 256 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:29,040 daylight savings time and things like 257 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:30,720 that so 258 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:32,640 be prepared to kind of mess around with 259 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:34,000 us a little bit perhaps it's an hour 260 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,000 later perhaps it's an hour earlier but 261 00:09:40,949 --> 00:09:38,880 in this case we're going to go with uh 262 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:40,959 22 263 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:46,720 i think is the time that uh it seemed to 264 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:47,519 be 265 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:50,560 so let's leave that there now how do we 266 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:53,760 find uh what we're looking for 267 00:09:57,190 --> 00:09:55,760 so here's the image and something you 268 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:57,200 notice is we've got some bright stars 269 00:10:03,190 --> 00:09:59,519 and we've got some fairly dim stars 270 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:03,200 smaller stars and but we also have some 271 00:10:06,150 --> 00:10:04,640 i guess you could call them mini 272 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:06,160 constellations where you've got things 273 00:10:10,870 --> 00:10:08,720 like squares you've got a little pair of 274 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:10,880 stars right here you've got this 275 00:10:14,710 --> 00:10:12,640 two stars in the line that two stars 276 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,720 close together two bright stars 277 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:16,640 uh and then you've got these little kind 278 00:10:20,069 --> 00:10:18,640 of little arc of stars like this and 279 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,079 then this kind of 280 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:22,959 t-shaped cross over here so you could 281 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:24,720 just go around looking for those but 282 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:26,079 before you do that there's a few things 283 00:10:31,430 --> 00:10:28,399 you might want to kind of set up in the 284 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:31,440 settings if you go to the sky and 285 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:32,880 viewing options 286 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:34,880 here 287 00:10:39,670 --> 00:10:37,519 what i like to do is 288 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:39,680 you can boost the size of the stars a 289 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:41,600 bit change their their absolute scale 290 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:42,640 and you see they're kind of getting 291 00:10:45,190 --> 00:10:43,519 bigger 292 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:45,200 you see you can see 293 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,800 the star's a bit clearer and it probably 294 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:48,560 shows a lot better in on the video too 295 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:50,320 so i'm gonna boost that all the way up 296 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:51,120 to 297 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:52,640 four i think 298 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:54,399 i'm also going to limit the magnitude 299 00:10:58,389 --> 00:10:56,800 because we can't see all the stars now 300 00:11:00,150 --> 00:10:58,399 you can do this in a couple of ways you 301 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:00,160 can do it with uh simulating light 302 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:02,240 pollution like over here 303 00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,240 you can just turn up the light pollution 304 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:06,079 and it'll turn off the stars or you can 305 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:08,720 just limit the magnitude of the stars 306 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:10,399 over here 307 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:13,519 and it will automatically remove 308 00:11:17,190 --> 00:11:15,519 the ones that you 309 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:17,200 wouldn't be able to see yeah if they're 310 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:19,120 below a certain brightness 311 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:20,560 and this kind of 312 00:11:25,190 --> 00:11:22,720 perhaps does it more this actually makes 313 00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,200 the sky look lighter as well so i kind 314 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:27,440 of prefer to just leave this down 315 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:30,160 and change the limit magnitude to a 316 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:32,320 certain amount so we can see the stars 317 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:33,600 more clearly 318 00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:35,760 something else you want to do is change 319 00:11:39,829 --> 00:11:36,800 the 320 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:39,839 projection from stereographic which is 321 00:11:45,190 --> 00:11:43,200 the default to perspective perspective 322 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:45,200 is basically 323 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:47,279 what a camera would use it's a reason a 324 00:11:51,269 --> 00:11:48,720 reasonable camera that which uses 325 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,279 rectilinear projection meaning that 326 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:53,360 straight lines remain straight 327 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,839 it's just a standard projection and if 328 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:57,920 you're taking pictures with your cell 329 00:11:59,750 --> 00:11:58,800 phone 330 00:12:03,350 --> 00:11:59,760 or a 331 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:03,360 normal dslr it's probably going to be 332 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:05,040 perspective projection so if you want to 333 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:06,560 get something that matches what you see 334 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:08,800 without too much distortion or too 335 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:10,399 different distortion 336 00:12:14,710 --> 00:12:13,200 then use perspective projection 337 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:14,720 you can also go to the landscape 338 00:12:19,590 --> 00:12:17,680 settings and you can change uh 339 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:19,600 what type of landscape we're on now i 340 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,920 like to use the ocean one because it 341 00:12:25,509 --> 00:12:23,519 gives you a nice clean horizon but you 342 00:12:29,110 --> 00:12:25,519 can change it to various other ones and 343 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:29,120 it will uh show things like trees and 344 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:31,360 and whatnot but i think he's using using 345 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:32,639 the ocean one 346 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:34,639 works well because we're in uh 347 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:36,079 albuquerque which is nowhere near the 348 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:37,600 ocean so perhaps something else might be 349 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:39,440 better it doesn't really make too much 350 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:41,519 difference here but uh if you want to be 351 00:12:46,629 --> 00:12:43,120 able to see all the way down to horizon 352 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:49,590 okay so here we have a very colorful sky 353 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:53,040 and we want to try to find 354 00:12:57,430 --> 00:12:54,800 uh this location oh you can see i've got 355 00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:57,440 some stars like arcturus here 356 00:13:00,310 --> 00:12:58,959 have labels on this is something else 357 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:00,320 that you can set 358 00:13:06,150 --> 00:13:03,200 here you can go into the sky settings 359 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:06,160 and the labels here you can adjust this 360 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:09,200 slider so you can get more labels 361 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:11,040 or less labels i like to do it just so 362 00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:14,000 that the bright stars have labels on so 363 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:16,480 we just get a vague idea of 364 00:13:20,629 --> 00:13:18,880 where we are 365 00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:20,639 so we were told we were looking towards 366 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:22,079 the west and i thought maybe it was this 367 00:13:28,069 --> 00:13:24,320 star speaker down here 368 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:28,079 uh but you know you start to compare 369 00:13:31,350 --> 00:13:29,760 this you know there's two stars one two 370 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:31,360 it kind of kind of matches you know 371 00:13:34,389 --> 00:13:33,040 that's how much is that one that matches 372 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:34,399 that one but then 373 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:36,240 there's these four stars here 374 00:13:41,030 --> 00:13:38,720 they don't really match and uh 375 00:13:42,470 --> 00:13:41,040 there's no two stars over there so no 376 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:42,480 so you know what i did basically was 377 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:43,760 just start 378 00:13:50,310 --> 00:13:46,240 with this just move around 379 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:50,320 uh looking for little pairs of stars 380 00:13:53,910 --> 00:13:51,920 like there's two stars next to each 381 00:13:56,230 --> 00:13:53,920 other but what i'm looking for 382 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:56,240 is two stars like this going up to the 383 00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:58,880 left to the right at a 45 degree angle 384 00:14:02,550 --> 00:13:59,680 so 385 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:02,560 i just kind of kept looking around 386 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,760 uh until until i found 387 00:14:09,490 --> 00:14:08,000 two stars that did that and it took a 388 00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:09,500 while but eventually 389 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:10,639 [Music] 390 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:11,760 yeah there they were i've actually 391 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:13,680 turned the labels up too much so i'm 392 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:15,519 going to turn those down 393 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:16,560 you don't want to have too many labels 394 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:23,750 all right so here 395 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:25,600 we found two stars 396 00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:28,480 let's see how well they match 397 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:30,399 there's two stars and there's a star 398 00:14:35,350 --> 00:14:32,639 there's a star there's another star by 399 00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:35,360 george i think we've got it 400 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:37,600 so of course i knew where this was but 401 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:39,199 this is basically the process i use i 402 00:14:43,269 --> 00:14:40,560 looked around 403 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:43,279 picked the distinctive bits of uh this 404 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:45,120 image 405 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:46,880 and 406 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:49,440 basically just looked until i found 407 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:50,560 something that matched you see we're 408 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:51,920 matching here and of course all these 409 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:54,079 stars down here they all match 410 00:15:01,269 --> 00:14:56,839 and which means that these two stars 411 00:15:03,910 --> 00:15:01,279 here are the stars antares 412 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:03,920 and this one this one is antares and 413 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:05,360 this one here is 414 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:07,360 pika haley i don't know why they use 415 00:15:11,189 --> 00:15:09,199 these weird names in uh 416 00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:11,199 in stellarium but there you go so we 417 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:14,079 found it we found the location 418 00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:16,000 and we know now 419 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:18,000 what we were looking at that bright star 420 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:21,600 in the sky is in fact the star antares 421 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:25,360 um now if we want to demonstrate this 422 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:27,040 the best way to do it is to take a 423 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:29,199 screenshot i like to use leave the date 424 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:31,600 and time on the screenshot you want to 425 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,120 make it so that the image is centered 426 00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:37,360 in the same position as the actual 427 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,560 photograph 428 00:15:43,030 --> 00:15:40,480 as you might notice when you move things 429 00:15:44,949 --> 00:15:43,040 around the kind of relative position of 430 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,959 things changes if it's a bit to the left 431 00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,160 or the right 432 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:47,839 especially in the wider angle not so 433 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:49,920 much when you're zoomed in but still 434 00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:52,079 just to make it as accurate as possible 435 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:54,720 try to get roughly the same size 436 00:15:58,310 --> 00:15:55,839 now another thing you can do at this 437 00:15:59,350 --> 00:15:58,320 point is it's fine tune the time 438 00:16:01,910 --> 00:15:59,360 uh 439 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:01,920 you see we have this star at the top 440 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:03,920 but that's the star next to it doesn't 441 00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:05,920 actually appear if the time was a bit 442 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,320 different if we were a little bit later 443 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:10,160 you would see that stop kind of pops 444 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:11,279 into view 445 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:13,040 so it kind of shows you that if that 446 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:14,959 starts right at the top we need to be 447 00:16:18,629 --> 00:16:17,519 about this time 10 past 10. then once 448 00:16:20,870 --> 00:16:18,639 you've got 449 00:16:23,269 --> 00:16:20,880 that screenshot you can just take it 450 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:23,279 into photoshop or some other program 451 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:26,079 that you can use to layer the images 452 00:16:31,189 --> 00:16:29,120 i put the original image and the bottom 453 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:31,199 layer then on top of that i 454 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:32,959 did the cleanup version let me show you 455 00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:35,120 real quick how i do that cleanup 456 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,680 uh in photoshop 457 00:16:42,310 --> 00:16:39,600 you can just use 458 00:16:43,269 --> 00:16:42,320 the spot healing brush tool and then you 459 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,279 just 460 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:45,199 click on one end of the line and then 461 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:46,639 you shift-click 462 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:48,240 on the other end of the line and just 463 00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:49,680 repeat that 464 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,680 just be careful when you're going around 465 00:16:56,629 --> 00:16:53,920 these stars to not remove them you see 466 00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:56,639 that star silver that star is uh 467 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:59,120 still there more or less 468 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,560 you might want to use a slightly smaller 469 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:01,920 brush 470 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:04,799 that seems that's all i did just remove 471 00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:11,189 and then i adjusted the contrast and 472 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:16,309 where we can see the stars a little bit 473 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:17,520 better then i'm going to went through 474 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:18,880 them as i said 475 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,760 and 476 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:21,280 put the stars in 477 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,760 and then eventually took the the image 478 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:25,360 from stellarium 479 00:17:29,909 --> 00:17:28,079 and just moved it around until it 480 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,919 matched you need to set the transparency 481 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:31,120 to 50 482 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:32,720 and you can move it around and you can 483 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:35,280 see it's readily apparent 484 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,360 that everything matches up 485 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:39,200 and you can even here you can take out 486 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,320 the uh 487 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:41,840 enhanced versions and go back to the 488 00:17:44,549 --> 00:17:43,200 original 489 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:44,559 and you can see 490 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:47,440 i'm moving around the stellarium version 491 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,120 that uh 492 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:51,840 everything does actually match up 493 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:53,120 so there was another 494 00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,440 image as well this one here figure three 495 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:59,039 zoomed in 496 00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:00,240 uh 497 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:01,440 which 498 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:02,640 is an interesting image because it's 499 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:04,960 showing this kind of uh bright light 500 00:18:07,990 --> 00:18:06,320 here with something coming off to the 501 00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:08,000 side and perhaps something on this side 502 00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:09,200 as well 503 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,280 and it's not saying shown so many stars 504 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,440 there's one two brighty stars there 505 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,440 couple there nice couple 506 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:17,760 and some more over here 507 00:18:21,270 --> 00:18:19,440 uh it was claimed that this was actually 508 00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:21,280 the same thing but it actually obviously 509 00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:23,039 isn't because these stars don't match up 510 00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,280 at all so i had to kind of go back into 511 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:27,440 stellarium you know i actually i tossed 512 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,520 this one into astrometry.net and it 513 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:31,120 didn't come up with any results so i had 514 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,400 to be manual with this one so back into 515 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:36,640 stellarium we go yeah i was looking 516 00:18:41,909 --> 00:18:39,520 around looking around and i thought yeah 517 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:41,919 what if it was uh what if it was jupiter 518 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:44,400 a bright object and you know you zoom in 519 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,600 and you see 520 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:47,840 well if you look at jupiter and celerium 521 00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:49,600 it actually has these little little 522 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,799 lines on it 523 00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:52,720 and 524 00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:54,960 you can kind of see you know it's like 525 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:57,039 these they are in fact the moons of 526 00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,160 jupiter 527 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,919 which appear as tiny little bright 528 00:19:03,830 --> 00:19:01,520 lights yeah they're light stars but 529 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,840 they're really the moons of jupiter 530 00:19:07,750 --> 00:19:05,280 and we can see 531 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,760 once we zoomed in on jupiter that we 532 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:09,520 have these 533 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:10,960 stars 534 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:13,520 in the correct position so 535 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:15,200 for this 536 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:20,150 here's jupiter down here 537 00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,799 there is two stars there and two little 538 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,120 dim stars there and then there's another 539 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:27,039 star up there which is gonna be that one 540 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:28,880 there these ones are obscured by this 541 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:31,840 chart here but uh they would be visible 542 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:34,320 so it's jupiter uh interesting though 543 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,559 it's not quite in the right position if 544 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:38,880 you compare this 545 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,520 to this i think we'd have to kind of 546 00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:43,760 zoom out a little bit more 547 00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:51,590 so if you compare this to this this this 548 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:53,919 jupiter is actually closer 549 00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:55,840 to this star so that kind of implies 550 00:20:00,630 --> 00:19:56,960 that 551 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:00,640 have the date wrong 552 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,039 so let's go and try just that now the 553 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:05,600 way you adjust that for a planet is you 554 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:07,360 click on the planet 555 00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:09,039 and then you 556 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,880 select 557 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:12,000 um 558 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,760 center on selected object which you can 559 00:20:17,029 --> 00:20:15,440 also do by just pressing the space bar 560 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:17,039 and it'll move the screen so we're now 561 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,120 centered on this object and the good 562 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,360 thing about that is that if you change 563 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:22,799 the date 564 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:25,039 it stays centered on that object so we 565 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:26,880 have jupiter and we have our four stars 566 00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:29,520 just as what it was in the previous day 567 00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,000 uh the day before or day before that 568 00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:35,679 and we can keep going back 569 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:37,600 a few days until we get something that 570 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,240 actually looks the same 571 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,000 as in this image 572 00:20:45,510 --> 00:20:43,760 and you see here 573 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,520 we've got the two stars and then more 574 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:46,960 straight down 575 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,440 and here's jupiter with the moons of 576 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,840 jupiter sticking out the side now i'm 577 00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:53,440 not entirely sure about this it doesn't 578 00:20:56,230 --> 00:20:54,159 look 579 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:56,240 exactly right but you can see obviously 580 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,280 there's uh yeah sufficient 581 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,960 proof there with those two stars and 582 00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,480 those two stars and the fact that we 583 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:04,799 have something that looks like jupiter 584 00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:06,559 so basically we're looking at jupiter 585 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:07,520 and 586 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,400 uh 587 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:10,080 it's not actually very close to where we 588 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,679 were looking with the other stars which 589 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,320 are where are we all the way over here 590 00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,080 antares 591 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,799 and and friends over here so 592 00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:20,480 he took two photographs on different 593 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:22,880 parts of the sky on different days and 594 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,240 thought they were the same thing that 595 00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:26,480 they both showed that nothing was there 596 00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,400 or in one photograph he had antares and 597 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:32,159 in the other photograph 598 00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:36,000 he had jupiter and the moons of jupiter 599 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,799 so there you go 600 00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:40,320 i know stellarium can be very 601 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,799 intimidating but ultimately 602 00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,640 all it is is something that shows you 603 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:46,480 what the sky looks like on a certain 604 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:48,799 date if you get past the the simple 605 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:51,360 navigation of being able to 606 00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:53,600 zoom in and out knowing where the menus 607 00:21:58,950 --> 00:21:56,799 are the location menu here there's the 608 00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:58,960 time and date menu 609 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,679 and then the the settings menu for the 610 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,919 view settings and being able to change 611 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:04,799 the 612 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,039 don't have to do that 613 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:18,320 it shows a lot better on video but i'm i 614 00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:19,919 can actually see these stars fairly well 615 00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:21,039 i think if you actually have the correct 616 00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,640 size of the stars it can be a little 617 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,559 easier to actually see so it's kind of 618 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,120 up to you what you find to be better 619 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:30,240 and then changing the labels 620 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:31,679 over here very important because you 621 00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,799 don't want it looking like this because 622 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,640 you won't be able to see anything but 623 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,240 it's also handy to have one or two 624 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,240 labels just so you get a 625 00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:41,039 just a little anchor and then changing 626 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:46,710 and that's about it 627 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:48,960 if you like this video and you would